Genealogy: Horton

Genealogy: Horton
Interesting link I found while googling "Abraham Horton Family History":
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/royal-shakespeare-company/TUG7R9I7RBKCGMI14

Royal Shakespeare CompanyLater Shakespearian like exploration in Chatham County N.C.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Feb 6, 2008

How substantial the Horton - Houghton relationship of Chatham County was, is left to the records of history. Both families moved into Chatham County in the 1700's, at least the Hortons did. Shakespeare lived with the Houghtons of Lancashire England during his youth and was introduced to the theatre at least on a wide scale level, while with the Catholic Houghtons at this time- 1570's. Abraham Horton Sr. born in Springfield Mass. 1722 had several children that were born roughly in Bucks County Pennsylvania in 1759.Abraham Sr. gradually moved southwards until the 1760's he settled in Surry County N.C. One interesting notable fact about this N.C. situation, is Abraham Jr., a son of the elderly, Abraham Horton, married a Chatham County Native, Adithia Clark. She was a family member of the Lewis and Clark team's : Clark. This exploratory team, later participated with William Henry Harrison, when the latter was governor?(or military leader?) of the Indiana territory. Exploring the Louisiana Purchase and the lands westward were a major focus for Lewis and Clark, at that time. But the Abraham Horton and Adithia Clark marriage, is significant perhaps, that the establishment of the Chatham County and Central North Carolina Horton line begins participating with the William Harrisons of Virginia, with this marriage. Secondly, outer exploration, of a new world, in these terms the western part of the U.S. occurs in connection of some sort, with this marriage also, since the Clarks of Lewis and Clarks--Adithia Clark was a member of this Clark family.. Later Chatham County events of the 1800s involving William Henry Harrison and the descendents of the William Henry Harrison family:(1) John Owen of Pittsboro, National Whig Leader in the early 1800's. Turned down the vice presidential offer of W.H. Harrison in 1839, and essentially with it, Owen missed the chance for the presidency, except, Owen too, died in the fall of 1841, about six to ten months after W.H. Harrison's death.(2) Benjamin Harrison's mother was a Horton and blood relative of the Chatham Horton's Abraham Horton to some connected degree, Adithia Clark for example was Abraham Jr.'s wife as mentioned previously.(3) William Harrison and Benjamin Harrison, long participants of Indianapolis Indiana, a teritorial focal point, in the early 1800's for, further expansion and exploration of the Louisana Purchase and Northwest Territories,---west of the Town of Pittsboro Indian took birth around 1815. This event for reasons of migration into Indiana, could also involve influences of the William Henry Harrison and ,later Benjamin Harrison influences by faint subsequent extrapolation, that extended into Chatham County because of (1) and (2), as previously mentioned.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Feb 6, 2008

Continuing from the above post: What is interesting about the above factual historical data on William Henry Harrison, is that, a lot of Lewis and Clark history along with William Henry Harrison's political exploits, particularly when he was governor or military leader, of Indiana is also tied and substantially participant with Chatham County History, at least beginning in the 1760's. And initially, involving the Hortons of Chatham,--Abraham Horton Jr. most specifically. And with this Chatham association with the Hortons, comes a historical connection back to England with a potential family line, that was connected to Lancashire COunty and the Houghtons, with the Horton group there, if the latter did exist in Lancashire. Additioanlly, William Horton of Yorkshire, mid 1550s and onwards, whose wife Elizabeth Hanson, duaghter of Katherine Brooke, this Elizabeth Hanson could have been a family member of William Brooke. And with that Elizabeth Hanson would have been related to a lot of the Shakespeairan characters and supporters and authors: Falstaff, Arthur Brooke-(potential Katherine Brooke relative also) and William Brooke, the latter who owned the Shakespearian acting troupe companies. Since the conditions of the plays creation involved potentially, William Horton of Yorkshire, late 1500's (2) and the Houghtons of Lancashire. What Horton Houghton realtionship in Lancashire in the 1500's and 1600's if any, would be a significant historical fact to better ascertain and illustrate by local historians.One could imagine, in Yorkshire and Lancashire Counties of England in the 1500s and early 1600s, the Hortons and Houghtons, as living their lives, became participants potentially with the creation of the Shakesperian plays. Shakespere exploring the inward realms of the human soul. TO use Sidney's term described in Michael Schmidt's "Lives of the Poets" -- The "Full Sail of Verse"--the mode of exploration of the world around us, by examining inwards, is what Shakespeare accomplished. In Chatham County N.C. in 1770's, the descendents of the Horton and Houghton families, of England at that time carried on the further exploration endeavors----apparently, most prominently Hortons, by becoming participant with the William Henry Harrison and Lewis and Clark group. Abraham Horton Jr. marriage to Adithia Clark in the 1770s appears to be an initial event for connecting the Chatham County history of William Henry Harrison and Lewis and Clark endaevors. And later Mathew Henson and his North Pole exploration when Henson joined Peary around 1907-1909, this event too, became a part of Chtahm COunty's exploratory history also. An event that could be added to The 'WIlliam Henry Harrison - Horton - John Owen history' with Adithia Clark and Lewis and Clark. THe Haughton's Navigation COmpany and their history with that enterprise throughout the 1800s in Chatham County. And Lurking on the borders of chatham COunty was Dolly Mdison's family of Greensboro N.C. She was involved with the purchase of the Lousiana Purchase Territores and the writing of the U.S. Constitution adn Declaration of Independence.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Feb 6, 2008

What is interesting about the above factual historical data on William Henry Harrison, is that, a lot of the Lewis and Clark history with William Henry Harrison's political exploits, particularly when he was governor (or military leader) of Indiana, is also tied into and substantially participant with Chatham County History, at least beginning in the 1760's. And intitially, involving the Hortons of Chatham, Abrabahm Horton Jr., most specifically. And with this Chatham Association with the Hortons, comes a historical connection back to England with a potential family line, that was connected to Lancashire County and the Houghtons, with the Horton group there. As well as with William Horton of Yorkshire mid 1550s and onwards, whose wife Elizabeth Hanson, daughter of Katherine Brooke, this Elizabeth Hanson could have been a family member of William Brooke. And with that, Elizabeth Hanson would have been related to a lot of the Shakespearian characters and supporters and authors : Falstaff, Arthur Brooke, and William Brooke, for example, the latter who owned the Shakesperian acting troupe companies. Since the conditions of the plays creation involved potentially, the William Horton of Yorkshire, late 1500s (2) And the Hougtons of Lancashire. And the Houghtons there, too could have had Horton associations in the Lancashire County area.One could imagine, in Yorkshire and Lancashire Counties, of England in the 1550s and the early 1600s, the Hortons and Houghtons were being pariticipant of the voyages of Shakespeare--that is exploring the inward realms of the human soul by the author. To use Sidney's term described in Michael Schmidt's "Lives of the Poets"--the "Full Sail of Verse"---the mode of exploration of the world around us by exploring inwards, is what Shakespeare accomplished. In Chatham County in the 1770's, the descendants of the Horton and Houghton families, of England at that time, carried on further exploration endeavors,---most prominently Hortons, by becoming participant with the marriage of Adithia Clark in the 1770s to Abraham Horton Jr., appears to be an initial event for connecting the Chatham County history to William Henry Harrison and Lewis and Clark endeavors. Matthew Henson, North Pole explorer with Peary 1907-1909, also is another historical event of Chatham County exploration in the early twentieth century. And could be added with Lewis and Clark,and, Shakespeare's full sail of verse that is, with the Houghton history William of Stratford had--all exploration events that would find a nexus in Chatham County N.C. Dolly Madison's family in Greensboro N.C.--Dolly Madison played a role in the Louisiana Purchase of 1803 and the writing of the constitution and Declaration of Independence, to varying degress, since she was James Madison's wife. But the Chatahm County history is somewhat of "an outpost of the Future"-- of the 1550's-1630's' English history events that involved Shakespeare's life, Houghtons of Lancashire, William Horton and his wife, Elizabeth Hanson and her progeny ect. All these events carry an aura of exploration right up to Adithia Clark's marriage to Abraham Horton Jr., a marriage that brought Lewis and Clark and W.H. Harrison into Chatham County's historical orbit. And later Matthew Henson continued the exploration heritage of Chatham COunty --an exploration heritage imbedded in these aforementioned historical events.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Feb 6, 2008

Some articles and Information that fills in more background information on the previous three posts of the 'Shakesperian like exploration' entry.(1) "Descendents of Abraham Horton Sr." Carries the information on Captain William Kennedy: Ramseurs Mill, Kings Mountain, along with Captain Daniel Wright--Revolutioanry War exploits of Abrham Horton.(2) "Abraham Horton Jr.'s marriage to Adithia Clark December 28, 1777 Surry County N.C."Jessee Beamer Horton b. 1783, Chatham North Carolina d. April 14, 1839 Duck Springs Etowah Alabama.(Son of the marriage.)(3) "William Henry Harrison & Lewis and Clark Expedition" 208.119.135.171/db/members test markers, display.(4) "William Henry Harrison and the West"(5) "Clark Marriages - Relatively Risener" Adithia Clark and Abraham Horton Jr. 28 December 1777.(6) "History of Chatham County North Carolina" Walter D. SilerThe Abraham Horton Jr. and Adithia Clark marriage, is an early intial historical event that brings Lewis and Clark and W.H. Harrison endeavors in connection to Chatham County N.C. And with such endeavors, the Lewis and Clark exploraitons of the vast western frontier of the United States in association with the Lewis and Clark team. The oceans were pushed by the English in 1587, Sir Walter Raleigh voyage --Lost Colony N.C., the Jamestown settlements 1607 or thereabouts, and the Mayflower Voyage at Plymouth 1621. And then later, Lewis and Clark explored and pushed back the frontiers of the soon to be U.S. with travels into the Northwest U.S. in the early 1800's. Thus, " Haughton, Horton, Adithia Clark, W.H. Harrison, Lewis and Clark, Benjamin Harrison,John Owen"--all form a nucleus of Chatham County history. Either as direct participants with each other and the affairs of their days or somewhat as peripheral participants, with each other and Chatham County's past. (Additional note: The previous two posts are basically the same, since there was a connection error on entry with google. Post number 2 did not show up subsequently on writing. So I wrote it over essentially not knowing that post 2 had registered. So post 3 is a repeat of post 2. Essentially, with some variations.)

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Feb 6, 2008
Correction of the above posts, Dolly Madison was probably not involved with writing of the U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence, but since she was wife of James Madison who had substatnial input on the documents, she has some distant association with the documents. During the War of 1812, when the British were about to burn down Washington, She grasped up important documents, perhasp treaty type of material, as the U.S. citizens fled Washington upon an inciptent British invasion. Her family was born in Greensboro, and she was born there though she had no consitent long term relationship with Greensboro following her birth. Pittsboro Chatham County was also known for Girl's Academies and Pittsborough Academy was such a school in the town. It can be found on the internet. In the second half of the twentieth century a shady event involving a potential murder, but never proven, involving a member of the extremely rich Kenan family, a Kenan matriarch, whose death at a Judge's House on Salsbury Street,Pittsboro, joined Flagler?, Kenan corporate fortunes with Louisville Newspapers. This agalmated wealth later essentially created Florida. Whitehall, Palm Beach, The hotel the Breakers were Flagler and Kenan's early fincancial exploits into the Floridian regions, where from this earlier point Florida took off as a major resort and vacation area for the world. A surge of expanding economic growth that essentially was ignited by the mysterious nefarious events in Pittsboro involving the Kenan matriarch.Florida too, exists as a part of the Uhwarrie range, and has possible geological histotry with Scotland or near such history. Andrew Jackson, also recruited lawyers from Chatham County to become part of his successfual politcal machine that took him to the Presidency. That is a possible fact, not very well explored. But the above are additional random facts of Chatham County N.C. history, that the Haughton and Horton families grew up in.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Feb 7, 2008

Correction, I meant to say second decade of twentieth century, on the Kenan issue, in Pittsboro, involving a corrupt Judge. In any case, an additional web site "Flagler's Florida" gives an interesting historical account of this early twentieth century period of Florida's history and its rise as a major tourist oriented state. Additionally, what is interesting about the possibility that there was an Eck Master present in England during the Shakesperian era, can be further validated by examining the content of some the sonnets. In Eckankar literature, there were Eck Masters that were presnt in earlier historical periods of civilization, such as ancient Egypt in the times of the Pharohs. At this time the architectural miracle of the pyramids were built. They were built with astonishing precision. THe following. The following quote: from sonnet 125": "Were t'aught to me I bore the canopy, With my extern, the outward honouring, Or laid great bases for eternity, WHich proves more short than waste or ruining?" These lines clearly are in reference with ancient Egypt and the pyramids-(great bases of eternity)- and also are the voice of an advisor to the pharoh or even God for that matter. An Egyptian ECK Master is what these lines detail most likely and are further evidence of such a holy man influencing ancient Egypt at that time as well as later the Elizabethan people later on and the literature of this time. The Eckankar work: "The Spiritual Notebook" has a section on the historical ECK Masters. And in this section, the advisor to the pharohs can be found, an Egyptian ECK Master that is.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Feb 7, 2008

Additional information on central Indiana. Clustered in the central part of the state are three towns: Indianpolis, Pittsboro, and Crawfordsville Indiana. Lewis Wallace who wrote Ben Hur, pirportedly, while governor of the New Mexico Territores, in Santa Fe, 1878-1881 ( a position, governor of New Mexico, held by Abraham Rencher from Pittsboro--Rencher held the position in the 1850's, rpobably since Polk brought the N.M terrritories into being.)his home is in Crawfordsville Indiana, west of Indianapolis by about twenty five to fifty miles. Crawfordsville I believe is south of Pittsboro Indiana. A museum for Lewis Wallace is located in Crawfordsville. Lewis Wallace was a U.S. ambassador to Istanbul, I believe in the latter two decades of the 1800's. So a lot of the museum in Crawfordsville, that is dedicated to Wallace's literary exploits, carries Muslim and Christian environs to it. He is an ancestor of mine. Along with John Kennedy Street of Dallas Texas, a Civil War chaplain, whose letters can be found at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. John Kennedy Street and Lewis Wallace were related through the south Texas connection in the 1800's. Also have a very diatant relative, more of a blood connection from distant earlier times, who was Lietutenant Governor of Texas in the 1800's Albert Clinton Horton. But Rencher and Especially Lewis Wallace had literary pursuits.my Grandmother was Wallace.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Feb 8, 2008

The interesting historical feature for Chatham COunty North Carolina could be enumerated as follows (1) Horton -Haughton presence with possible other English individuals, who lived in Chatham from the 1700's onwards. And Horton Haughton could have been involved in the historical background settings, participation with individuals of that time related to Shakespearian endeavors, possibly other contribution to the plays of a literary nature, of Shakespeare's plays development, as well as other writers. Particularly involving the counties of Lancashire and Yorkshire. Thus an involvement in Inward exploration of the human soul. (2) Horton and Haughton arrived on the Plymouth 1621, via Mayflower voyage, thus an early exploration of the new world by this event via naval endeavors and the like (1630's) (3) Descendents of Horton and Houghtons, in reference to Chatham County N.C. Haughton specifically, become participant with the central Indiana area to a varying degree via contacts (marriages, political connections) a participation beginning around 1770s up unto 1800 and onwards through this initial 19th century decade. Adithia Clark, W.H Harrison, John Owen, Lewis and Clark, and finally, later, Benjamin Harrison attest to that participatory fact. Exploration of the Northwest passage, Louisianna Purchase territories, and the Oregon territories are examples of Lewis and Clark's explorations.Explorations connected to Lewis and Clark's journeys and W.H. Harrison.(4) Chapel Hill educated James Polk, president of the United States 1844-1848, added on to the United States, New Mexico territories, and Oregon Territories, to complete the United States. A final Chapter in exploration of new lands of the future U.S. west that were eventually brought into the union. So Chatham County history in its earlier days was interwoven with Shakespearian exploration, Mayflower exploration, Central Indiana Exploration - Lewis and Clark, and eventually the western U.S.-Polk's acquisitions. Chatham County's history particularly in the later 1700's through the first sixty to seventy years of the 1800s involve exploration of inward type and outward environmental journeys through the western half of the U.S. Additionally in Chatham Conty, Haughton McIver House, near the Gulf community, is a vestige of the Haughton life in the county. Descendents most likely of the Lancashire Houghtons who oversaw William Shakespeare's adolesence, with theatre, literary and religous pursuits.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Feb 8, 2008

In regards to the above previous post, the following can be stated about James Polk, who had formed a political nucleus with Abraham Rencher and John Owen while living his early days at The University of North Carolina around 1819. This nucleus stretched from Chapel Hill to Pittsboro. From the Web site: "Biography of Sarah Polk" -"A devout Presbyterain, she refused to attend horse races or the theatre; but she always maintained social contacts of value to James. When he returned to Washington as President in 1845, she stepped to her high position with ease and evident pleasure. She appeared at the inaugral blaa, but did not dance." Later--"Contrasted with Julia Tyler's waltzes, her entertainments have become famous for sedateness and sobriety. Some later accounts say that the Polks never served wine..." End of quote. Such was the austere environment created by Sarah Polk upon entry into Washington. Later on the last night of the presidency, in hotel room, at Midnight, with a stack of Bills and legislation on a desk, James Polk was signing bills up until the stroke of midnight, when his authority ceases as president. As the beginning of the presidency came, Sarah Polk who was against gaming and frivolity, set the tone of a presidency that ended with straight forward work. Three months later, in a leisure trip environment in New Orleans, with gaming and the like, James Polk died. Possibly on a pleasure cruise. As if some premonition of his death, is a psyhological fact of history to be ascertained."James Polk : wikipedia""PBS- The West_ James Polk" These are additional web sites that carry information on this president who carried out the finalizing of the U.S. territory development. It is interesting that Polk as a protege of Andrew Jackson died in New Orleans. Jackson sealed his place to the presidency with the victory of New Orleans back with the conflict of Britain in the second decade of the 1800.s There Jackson and Polks destiny would ride out as presidents to be--- from that Louisianna military victory. And Polk would end such a half of century venture in New Orleans upon his death.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Feb 8, 2008

Additional information on the previous post and ones before it. James Polk and James Cochrane? Dobbin, the latter a secretary of Navy for the U.S. Both men died at 55 years old or close to that age. There were some historical accounts concerning Dobbin that he had a premonition of his death that was to arrive early. And likewise James Polk's wife carried out a WHite House social agenda that was opposite the gaming and leisure trip of New Orleans,-- a trip Polk died on on June 15 1849. As if Sarah Polk's austere social policy in the White House had indigenous to it a premonition like thought of foreboding of Polk's death's circumstances. A gaming environment. This could be, since both men lived roughly at the same time in central N.C. and Washington D.C, for most of their lives together with the fact that both died around 55 at relatively young ages. But it is interesting that both these N.C. politicians had some interesting historical trappings surrounding their deaths. Polk's adding the New Mexico territories ignited a decade of bitter rancor in the U.S. Government senate and House, concerning the expansion of slavery. Bitter rivalry and hostilities to such a point, the Southern politicians were seriously concerned about the southern social order collapsing. Hence, Franklin Pierce's election revealed a pocketed northern politician from New Hampshire, pocketed virtually by the south. An example of how dire the sectional divisions had become, and the lengths the southern politicians would go to maintain in their belief social order in the south. Nevertheless, War broke out at Fort Sumter in the early 1860's and massive bloodshed was soon to follow subsequently in the four or so years afterwards. Northern Moore County's Andrew Johnson would be the first president to attempt to restore the Union when he took over the presidency in the spring of 1865.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Mar 8, 2008

THe following article "The Mysterious Mr. W.H." Gwynneth Bowen, Spring 1969. The following quote: "To the Right Worshipful and/ Vertuous Gentleman, Mathew Saunders, Esquire./ W.H. wisheth, with long life, a propserous/ achievemnet of his good desires" A dedicatory epistle follows, in which W.H. writes of these meditations. "Long have they lien hidden in obscuritie, and happily had never seen the light, had not a mere accident conveyed them to my hands." The epistle is signed--"Your Worships unfained affectionate W.H.". William Horton of Yorkshire and his son WIlliam Horton, both carry the initial's W.H. Could either one, particularly the father have some association with the W.H. described in the previous Bowen quote? But furthermore the two words "obscurtite" nad "light", the latter means light of God, most likely, the way its used in the quote. And obscuritie describes the conditions of existence of the Eck Master. Particularly with this indiviual's historical legacy in earlier historical eras, and the obscure conditions he lived in during these times. W.H. seems to be some sort of literary agent, collecting literary works. Could he be collecting literary works for the Eck Master and then, the Eck Master would take the works assess them critique them, modify them? All with the pure divine essence imbuing the Eck Master's judgement in such endeavor. Its an interesting thought to consider. And if W..H is William Horton of Yorkshire, then 'the W.H. Eck Master collaboration' could be in Yorkshire. Furthermore, Elizabeth Hanson's mother, Katherine Brooke, could also associate the William Horton Elizabeth Hanson family with ties to William Brooke. WIlliam Brooke was handling the acting troupes in London that WIlliam of Stratford was acting in. And also the works of Shakespeare were being presented in. If William Brooke had such heavy participation with the actual presentation of the plays in London why not another relative, Katherine Brooke's daughter--'ELizabeth Hanson and William Horton'--these two, handling the initial receiving of flows of literary works and further creation of such works (with input of the Eck Master)in and out of Yorkshire?" Its a plausible thought to consider since W.H. were recieiving literary works for his perusal as the above initial Bowen quote details. Also the promise of long life and prosperousness as the Bowen quote relates is similar to the Sonnet's dedication of "Our Ever living poet, promising long life". Such poet being the Eck Master. The similarity of the two quotes in the previous sentnece, further relate W.H. to the Eck Master, since the sonnet's dedication quote of our ever living poet is similar in thought to the above W.H. statement of proseprous and happy achievements with 'wisheth long life'. In the latter as W.H. relates. See Harry Horton Buzzle entries in Arts and Literature message Board sections, categories 1-3,- Shakespeare ones, English Teacher's TOp Five and the Creative Imagination --titles of the pieces--- for further extended information on the above thoughts in this communique.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Mar 8, 2008

Further extende thoughts along the previous quotes themes and facts: William Horton of Yorkshire, came from a line of Hortons that lived in Bradford Yorkshire and Bradford on the Dale. This fact could indicate that the Yorkshire Hortons had a long affiliation with the Yorkshire Bradfords that stretched back through medieval English history, possibly even before William the Conquerors time. A long association similar to the Hortons with the Houghtons, that existed in Yorkshire, Lancashire and Northampton counties since the Houghton and Horton names lie with such close proximity to each other. William Bradford of Yorkshire was a Hanson. His mother was Hanson and WIlliam Horton's children were Hansons, thus, these Horton children are blood related to William Bradford. William Bradford sailed on the Mayflower and was the first long term governor of the Plymouth COlony and thus finalized at his death the continuance and success of the upper tier of the American settlements and thus future U.S., intact and in place. He died in 1657? or thereabouts, and the time from 1621- 1657 were just about totally ruled by William Bradford. When one considers the Southampton departure of the Mayflower in the fall of 1620, there are three notable attribute present on the Mayflower.(1) The Eck Master, after completing the influence of Elizabethan literature now turns his attnetion of getting America underway, under divine agenda. He is on the Mayflower.(2) WIlliam Bradford is on the Mayflower and the governor who will accomplish the colony's success. How much divine ordination via the Eck Master's presence is anotable issue to consdier. But since WIlliam Bradford is from Yorkshire, if this influcence is present from the Eck Master, this fact could further point to the Eck master's presence in Yorkshire during the previous 'Eck Master influenced writings' of the Elizabethan works.(3) William Bradford is of 'Hanson blood". And William Horton Jr. is of Hanson blood too. William Horton and WIlliam Horton Jr. are also from Yorkshire. So all in all, these three factors, enumerated above that detail the features and persons of the Mayflower voyage are also indigenous to Yorkshire county. If one accepts the Eck Master premise--this is the only one on 'thin iced theoretical grounds', but could potentially be factual reality of valid fact. Henry Wriothesley, a potential candidate for the W.H. sonnet's dedication is also known as the Earl of Southampton, and he was the recipetent of Shakespeare's dedications in the Bard's early works. Could Shakespeare's interest in him have deeper future political siginficance. Southampton would be needed to launch the Eck Master's trip to Plymouth Rock via the Mayflower in 1620. And Henry Wriothesley was the Earl of Southampton and thus could have had associations with the potilcal climate of the rulers of the Southampton village. And He too is drawn somewhat peripherally into this Yorkshire orbit with William Bradford and the needs of strating America in the north via the Mayflower settlement.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Mar 10, 2008

Further extended thoughts along the previous post's line of the thinking. If William Bradford and the Eck master were on the Mayflower, this fact could potentially point to a close relationship between the Eck Master and William Bradford, --a relationship of some manner. WIlliam Bradford is from Yorkshire and the Bradfords had a close historical relationship with the Hortons. THe close relationship between the Eck Master and William Bradford could have existed in Yorkshire, a relationship previous to the Mayflower voyage. And if there were a close relationship between the Bradfords , William Bradford included, and the Eck Master, in Yorkshire, then the scene is set for a close relationship between William Horton (W.H.) and the Eck Master too. So in regards to the previous post's quotes from the G. Bowen article that contains the W.H. statements, W.H. could be WIlliam Horton. These statements seem to describe W.H. working in collaboration with the EcK Master,--- works by Southwell that had not by accident seen the light if the works did not come to W.H.'s hand. Such an assertion found in the Bowen statement points heavily to W.H. working with another, such as the Eck Master. Even though this is factually hard to confirm. The above is a logical step through of theoretical nature, of how the Eck Master, Hortons and Bradfords and Hansons of Yorkshire County could have existed together in the 1500's. How valid or truthful the above facts are, is left to future research. Its still interesting to me that as centuries passed, and Hortons and Bradfords and Houghtons came together at critical points of history and formed such relationships, as if such relationships were predestined to some extent---from a genealogical interest's point of view---this fact I find fascinating. Particularly if an Elizabethan Eck Master arrived with spiritual information that the world no longer serves sufficently for evolving the soul's journey back to God, and the human race over the next five hundred years may as well resign itself, that a new world for the human soul is somewhere in the future offing. The negative current is at its height at this point in human history, acording to Eckankar, the negative currnet predominates and runs its empty course. All of these spiritual and philosophical attestments are interwoven in the Elizabethan history's fabric.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Mar 10, 2008

COntinuance of thoughts from the previous posts in this section. The Gwynneth Bowen article, the following quote comes: "He seems to have accepted without question Sir Sidney Lee's obscure stationer theory, and believing, as he did, that the author of the sonnets was Edward de Vere Earl of oxford, he was surprised, but intrigued, to find that the Jesuit poet, Robert Southwell, had spent much of his time, from 1586 to about 1592, at Lord Vaux's house in Hackney; which according to the historican Hackney, William Robinson was probably Brooke house, then known as King's Place." End quote. Brooke House is named after William Brooke, whose family members have been confirmed to have substantial involvement in supplying the characters in Shakespeare's plays. Falstaff, who was John Oldcastle, was a Brooke, and Arthur Brooke, ROmeo and Juliet author, Two noble kinsmen could be modelled after william Brooke's continental travels to Italy and France in the 1540's and William Brooke ran the acting companies in London itself. Katherine Brooke, Elizabeth Hanson's mother could further extend WIlliam Brooke's influence with the Shakepseare's works to Yorkshire, with William Horton, there. But what is interesting according to the Bowen article, is the sonnets were present at King's Place before they went into publication in 1609.(also De Vere line is blood related to Elizabeth Hanson).ANd later, Lord Vaux's residence is renamed Brooke House. So one has the sonnets, with the dedication containing W.H.(William Horton Jr.?)the name Brooke, Katherine Brooke as relative to Brooke, and Elizabeth Hanson being related to the de Vere line. Such is some of the circumstances surrounding the sonnets presence previous to publication at Lord Vaux's House in the months or years previous to 1609. SOme of the weaknesses in the William Hall stationer theory , WIlliam Hall as the receiver of the sonnets, the sole one that is. With this thought in mind, some analysts think the sonnets were to be given only to Mr. W.H., only for him to read and no one else;--- the general English public and the world included, who would have no right to the sonnets. Yet giving the works to a stationer, for publication is rather odd and does not fit this peviously described intent, because such action would make the sonnets known to the general public.. What is more interesting, when one receives information, privately from God, through the Eck Master's guidance, a happening that takes place in the mind---according to Eckankar's principles, such information is to be kept secretive and private between the receiver and the Eck master. This line of Eckankar thought and principle seems to be present in the dedication of the sonnets. That is, where, "Our Ever living poet, who is promising happiness and eternity", wishes these sonnets to be private to the Mr. W.H., the receiver. An action no different if Mr. W.H. were receiving spiritual instruction from the Eck Master via Eckankar spiritual techniques--such as from reciting the hu chant.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Mar 10, 2008

THe following web site in consideration: "Horton--www.jowest.net/Genealogy/Jo/ Sargent/ Horton.htm-19K"--- "Anne Horton descended from prominent and influential families of the early settlers, in New England and Massachusetts Bay." A quote from the web site. This web site traces back Anne Horton's ancestry back to the Roman Emperors over 100 B.C. A good deal of the ancestors of royal lineage comes from, I believe, through Yorkshire's Elizabeth Hanson's ancestral line. Elizabeth Hanson married William Horton in the 1570s. THis carmel colored background web site is fairly extensive and reflects Anne Horton's saturated royal line past that extends all over Europe, from Scandanavia, to Kiev, France, the German states, and early off into Italy and Ancient Britain. Old King Cole (King Lear) is an Anne Horton ancestor. From the web site Generation 58 Tiberius Claudius Nero and Mark Antony are Anne Horton ancestors. Generation 61-62 Julius Caesar, an Anne Horton ancestor. THese are examples of her heritage. A well done, genealogically researched 'succesive enumerated generation' substantiated web site and its historical information, is what this site is about. Not to be missed. But what is interesting about the information in this web site, in relationship to Shakespeare are two principles. Principle (1) Does this site establish William Brooke and his family members as central to the works, writings and presentation of Shakespeare's works?(2) The Eckankar principles, that only private information between the receiver of God's words and instructions, via the Eck Master, ELizabethan Eck Master or otherwise Eck Msters of previous eras, this principle also be present overall in the writings and presentation of Shakespeare's total works? FOr example, if one took the aforementioned precept,concerning the sonnets ---that Mr. W.H. the only begetter of the word of God from our ever living poet, who by the way promises happiness and eternity. And this word of God being the content of the sonnets itself. THis action is private between Our ever living poet and Mr. W.H. the begetter, according to Eckankar principles. The sonnets are a written work of Shakepsare. So how about all the other works of Shakespeare being written in the theme of being-- such "holy private communications" between our ever living poet and the family members of ----William Brooke. Are the Shakespeaer writings nothing more than a private intiamte family affair between William Brooke and the Eck Master? If political events also have a spiritual predestined quality indigenous to them, one has a very interesting situation with William Brooke's coming to power in the mid 1550's. He and Queen Elizabeth came to power within six weeks of each other in the spring? of a mid 1550's year. And both had long rules and reign up until around 1600. Queen Elizabeth died in the early 1600's first decade that is. But when one looks at the Anne Horton ancestral line, one is looking at all the characters of Shakespeare plays. Elizabeth Hanson, Anne Horton William Brooke--(the latter most likely though further genealogical research needs to confirm that fact)all have individuals that show up in Shakespeare plays especially Shakespeare's history plays. King LEar, Julius Ceasar, Mark ANtony and Cleopatra, Cymbelline, blood relations with the Boleyns, CLovis, WIlliam the COnqueror,. COuld the Shakespeare canon be nothing more than a writing of WIlliam Brooke's family history,, that should have been private. Writings of the receiving words of God along Eckankar principles, to a the Brooke relations of the 1500's that is William Brooke,. William Brooke is central and responsible for Shakespeare's works coming to the world. And the above ideas are interesting to consider. So then the gist of the sonnet's dedication, of the private nature of Mr. W.H. receiving the word of God--such approach--could it be also applied to the whole Shakespeare canon itself.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Mar 11, 2008

Three major historical features can be attributed to Cheshire County at the beginnings of Norman times, that is the years following the Norman invasion of 1066. First--the county was laid waste, its land salted so growing crops would be inhibited; the population dispossed also. This event created a wasteland or wasta and abandoned lands. Secondly, the minstrels emerged from this wasteland as free spirits. It is interesting that the minstrels emerged from abandoned lands, living as free spirits over the land, that is their existence lived within song and dance, with lyres, flutes and the like. In 1216 the Cheshire Duttons began to organize the ministrels, these free spirits, in a fashion similar to the Domesday Book approach. That is registering, counting the musicians and minstrels that were good enough to play in Cheshire county. Thirdly, the Domesday Book itself. The first census conducted by William the Conqueror at the end of the eleventh century. Heaven and Hell and Judgement day attributes were tied to this DOmesday Book tally that was primarily organized for land and taxation purposes. So one finds these minstrels or free spirits playing their songs and plays throughout Cheshire and eventually Lancashire County in these years following 1216.Well up into the 1500s and beyond, thus creating this roving artistic environment. The Ministrel Halls was an organized census like institutions for organizing essentially the free spirits of the earth so to say, in Cheshire and Lancashire counies. Its romantic in a way that all this activity was the initiating environmnets preparing for the future arrival of the Elizabethan Eck Master. And all the spiritual activity and endeavors of the Eck Master in the 1500's. In the Book "The Final Act" The Roads to Waterloo, by Gregor Dallas. On page 241 and 240, even in Vienna in 1814 in the winter, in these European capitals, the diplomats were still arguing over calculations of the souls, the moral force indigenous to numbers of souls, particularly Saxons -( a group subdued in Cheshire possibly by William the Conqueror)---- a compilation no different than this initiating Domesday Book by WIlliam The Conqueror over 700 years later. And Free Spirit number registering by the Duttons, that is the Lords of the Minstrels, beginning in the 1216 year. On page 241 of the Dallas book the following quote: "Baron von HUmboldt was notably absent. He was at the moment agonizing over gifts of a larger nature; he had been excluded from the negotiations that had led to the creation of the Statisitcal Committee and he was very angry." This quote gives one a sense that even in the early 19th century calculation of souls was still a significant process in the diplomatic areana. Just as it had been with the Cheshire Duttons centuries earlier.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Mar 11, 2008

Eckankar is based on soul travel, that is the major religous task the individual does during lifetime is to send the soul with the guidance of the 'paraclete' or otherwise known as the'Eck Master' into the highest reaches of the God planes. All of current daily life is nothing but a testing of the soul, a spiritual training ground, that is trapped in the negative currents, that is the Kal power--which includes evil, bad Karma and good karma. Testing and trapping the soul for knowledge gain, and with such trapping the souls gathers knowledge on its journey back to God. Yet in the above post one finds, for example with the Creation of the Lords of the Minstrels--free spirits--that is simply souls. Souls that exist in music and sound, very much like say a soul that enters a GOd Plane in Eckankar, such a plane expresses itself as a flute, or a thousand violins, in other words music. A plane of God of music experienced by the soul upon entering such a plane via soul travel. Even more poignant, is the minstrel, music and sound playing souls they were, that is free spirits, roamed abandoned lands, that is lands that were waste lands such as Cheshire. As if the free spirited minstrels existed in music and sound, coming from the earth which the earth's status was a wasteland or wasta. A land that no longer served any further purpose for fostering future life. THis is the haunting environment of the minstrels at this time. And would be the eventual environment the Eck Master would enter into with all the information and creative force pouring from the highest realms of God, below to the ENglish people and eventually to the world itself. The whole body of Elizabethan literature is the results of the Eck master's formative presence most likely. ANd with such information, to use John Donne's analysis, the world is spent and worn out. Such is an interesting development at this time. And Shakespeare's works entered into this world. One unusual note--another rock song--WInchester Cathedral by Nancy Sinatra, is about an English cathedral associated with the DOmesday Book, and reflects another popular song in this Norman times and 'Norman invasion area' of English history, like the Led Zepplin song--Immigrant Song.

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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Mar 11, 2008

Possible correction of the above. New Vaudeville Band, I believe, did Winchester Cathedral, I could not find Nancy Sinatra doing a version of it. Whether she did, is left to contemproray music research. Yet Winchester Cathedral was associated with the Domesday Book complilation at the beginnings of Norman times in England. Its interesting nevertheless what inpires even contemporary artists, composers, as subject areas for popular songs and tunes, and when one finds medieval subjects in present day rock and roll performers, it seems somewhat interesting, why these subjects still hold significance for popular music. Even the minstrels of Cheshire county could be classified as contemporary performers, pop performers of sorts, always on tour, like present day rock and roll bands. Even though their subject areas centered around religous subjects and Christian warriors--warriors on tour say in Jerusalem during the Crusades. The ministrels of these times were interestingly associated with military invasion of lands and battlefield exploits, along with chivalrous love and religous song--an always fascinating disparate mix of subject areas indigenous to these minsterls and their genre.And free spirits as such they ahve been known as during their times and later by historians.
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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Mar 14, 2008

The following psychological phenomenon, found in simple daily life, with a lot of individuals, can be the whole essence and substance of the Shakespeare Authorship COntroversy and its resolve. On el ate afternoon, a man goes driving through the countryside and starts to return to the house that he has lived in for twenty five years. Needless to say, since the man has lived in the house for twenty five years he is fairly well familiar with the rooms and contents of the house. As the sun drops lower along the horizon, he arrives at the house and enters into its rooms. As he makes his way to the study he stops almost in a frozen manner. He simply peruses the room in a semi hypnotic like state of mind. And surprisingly finds all the articles in the room foreign, distant to the senses, alien in sensory recognition. THis seems strange, because whether looking at the books on the book shelves, paintings along the wall, or the typewriter on the table ,all these items should be familiar to the man's senses. But yet the man's mind in a contradictory sense registers the whole inner sanctum of the room as distant, and ailen. THis previously desribed psychological event is simply soul travel. A naturally occuring process of the mind that everyone experiences from time to time. And a process the Eck Master encourages and develops along the spiritual principles of Eckankar. Its sort of funny that when one considers the heart of the Shakepseare authorship controversy, one finds this simple psychological event of soul travel to be the mainstay essence of the Controversy>. And all through the Shakespeare works soul and soul travel constantly appears. In a historical era in England already known to possess a mysterious individual Maister EK. AN individual associated most notably with Edmund Spesnser whose writings began to appear earlier in the 1570's than the later Shakespeare Works. Perhaps, Maister Ek stuck his head out too soon, or should not have made his identity so notable with Spenser because of the hostile political climate extant in England at the time. And evidently went back underground in the 1590's to somewhat of extent for unknown various reasons. But nevertheless, future research can elucidate any of those suppositions more accurately. Furthermore, in regard to soul travel, the German wrod--Die Seele is synonomous with mind and soul. Both are one in the same, in the German definition status. And when considers soul travel, the phenomenon, itself, Die Seele is a good point to hold the action of soul travel, that is the mind and soul itself--- as representative by the word Die Seele.
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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Mar 17, 2008

The name Chatham, of Chatham County N.C.,is derived from William Pitt the Earl of Chatham. Known as Diamond Pitt, William came across a large diamond worth a lot of money and from his financial gain from finding the rock, he made a good deal of his fortune, that elevated him in social rank in English Society. What is i interesting is the First Earl of Chatham, William Pitt the elder was the grandson of the Governor of Madras--an area of India. So the whole Pitt legacy in English politics emerged solely from colonialization and that is the colonies of India. Remember India, which is the traditional home of Eckankar, was first explored in 1590,by the English, almost the exact same time Shakespeare's works began appearing to the English public.The Eckankar work "The Tigers Fang", involving Paul Twitchell and Rebezar Tarz, took place in Srinigar at the utmost stretches of India's national territories. These earliest beginnings of the Pitt families as colonists gave the American Colonies their utmost friend in William Pitt in Parliament. But again what is interesting about Chatham County's name, is that it is closely associated with colonial exploration, that is the exploration of new lands. And furthermore, the locale of such exploration is India, the home of Eckankar. Two interesting features that comprise the character of the name Chatham County. Either one of the William Pitts, probaby both to a certain degree were involved with such matters as the Townshend Acts--government levies as such on glass tea, possibly paper. The political negotiating of the East India Company. And involvement of the politcal ramifications of the Frensh India Company. Even William Pitt possibly had the education of some his family memebers in Holland.Or at least involvement or consideration of that country. The earliest continental refuge of William Bradford, where he worked as a fustian weaver, while planning his voyage to the New World in seeking Religous freedom from the British Isles, in 1620--was in Holland.
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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Mar 17, 2008
Correction: meant to say "French Indian Wars" as opposed to "French India Company". In previous post.
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Harry Horton
Raleigh, NC
Tuesday May 20

In regards to other themes and assertions of other posts, regarding the U.S. Navy, Secreatry of Navy, during Andrew Jackson's term as president. John Branch was the Secretary of Navy for Andrew Jackson, and John Branch was from North Carolina. The Wikidpedia entry has a lot of information on him. What is fascinating about John Branch he had an aversion to the U.S. Navy, in fact he cut resources for funding any real expansion of the Navy during jackson's tenure as president. In the 1850's Graham did the opposite, he expanded the U.S. navy, adding new technological advantages to the ships and starting the U.S. Naval Academy. During the turbulent 1850's. The Whig Party was dying out at that time in America, the Addition of the New Mexico territorise had created bitter rancour in the U.S. COngress, eventually heading the county to Civil War, Bleeding Kansas was underway, and later in New MExico the atomic era would begin in the 1940's. So this, sequence between Branch and William Graham's Secretary of Navy tenure,is a cycle. One of indifference to the U.S. Navy resources on the part of Branch, to one of the opposite on the part of Graham, later, in the 1850's. As if the time was right, for expanding the Navy under Graham. But its an interesting fact, that both Secretaries came from North Carolina, and Branch could be considered something of the nadir of energetic concern for the U.S. Navy, until an upswing in the fifties, where Grahman could be considered occupying a zenith of the Navy funding, and concerns,the top of the cycle. But the transpiring of these North Carolina participatory historical events carry with it a cyclic nature. Whether songs and poetry are known to be cyclic also, whether the Norse sagas, Kavela or Hiawatha, history appears to have its cyclic dimensions also. As evidenced, perhaps, in the two N.C. Secretaries of Navy at this juncture in 19th century America.

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